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Hugo Weaving: "The Red Carpet
is Not for Me"
3rd March 2004 The
Telegraph
Hugo Weaving, star of The Matrix and The Lord of
the Rings trilogies, is one of the most bankable stars in the film industry.
But while his co-stars and countrymen celebrated at last weekend's Oscars
ceremony, he was determined to stay well away from Hollywood. Nick Squires
meets him
"It's a tough one," says Hugo Weaving. "If it came down
to a fight, I'm not sure who'd win." He is debating the fighting prowess
of his two best-known screen incarnations: Agent Smith, the indestructible,
suit-and-sunglasses-wearing baddie from The Matrix films, and the noble
Elrond, the elf king from The Lord of the Rings. He's not talking about
the characters themselves, but the plastic action figures that have sold
in their thousands all over the world.
Hugo Weaving: despite his success, he has no desire to
employ a publicist or a bodyguard
"Elrond," he observes, "slashes his sword up and down
if you squeeze his little legs together." Agent Smith, on the other hand,
simply wields a pistol at the end of an outstretched arm.
"Elrond's got the movable pieces. And he's also
bigger," Weaving says, after due consideration. "Smith, on the
other hand, has got a gun. But then, Elrond's immortal..."
Whatever the fighting capabilities of his miniature plastic
alter-egos, Weaving's place in action film history is assured. He is part
of a wave of Australian actors who have made a huge impact in Hollywood
recently, including Nicole Kidman, Naomi Watts, Cate Blanchett and Russell
Crowe. Over the past five years, the 43-year-old actor has starred in six
of the most profitable films of all time - The Lord of the Rings and The
Matrix trilogies. Last year, films that starred Weaving made £1.2
billion worldwide, making him, according to some reports, "the most bankable
star in Hollywood".
Quirkily handsome, he is dressed informally in faded jeans
and a blue T-shirt, his shoulder-length hair swept back from an expansive
forehead, and he sports a thick beard. The spectacular back-to-back success
of The Matrix and The Lord of the Rings films, has not, he insists, changed
him at all.
"The money's been good, but I still take the kids
to school in the morning and do a big supermarket shop on Mondays.
I choose not to have a publicist or a bodyguard or a personal assistant.
Some actors live in such incredibly rarefied worlds that they forget how
to take responsibility for themselves."
Weaving abhors the Hollywood movie-making machine and
categorically rules out a move to Los Angeles. He is passionate about supporting
Australia's film industry and disapproves of America's cultural dominance.
"There's too much crap being made in Hollywood. The film
world is full of garbage," he says. "I don't want to live in a world where
all the films come out of Los Angeles."
As an actor with a global profile, he knows he has to
play the game - attending premières and so on - but it is something
he does with deep reluctance. Even though The Return of the King swept
the board at Sunday's Academy Awards ceremony, winning 11 Oscars, Weaving,
unlike many of his co-stars, did not attend.
"The whole red carpet thing, that's a side of the industry
I cannot bear. Everything has to be sold, everything has to be hyped, money
becomes the key. You end up becoming a product yourself. I don't want that.
I just want to be an actor who's also a human being."
Weaving is polite to a fault, attentive and down-to-earth.
He doesn't give interviews but, after two-and-a-quarter hours, he is still
happily chatting away.
He lives with his wife, artist Katrina Greenwood, in one
of Sydney's smartest suburbs. His children, Harry, 15, and Holly, 11, go
to a local school and remain unfazed by their father's celebrity.
There may be no skeletons in his cupboard, but there is
a sword under his couch, which he was given on completion of the The Lord
of the Rings series. "They presented all the actors with gifts at the end:
a helmet, a dress, or whatever. I got a sword. I've no idea what I'm going
to do with it. It will probably stay under the couch for ever. But it could
be handy if there's a burglary."
Like the sword, its owner will stay in Sydney for the
foreseeable future. Weaving's desire to remain rooted in Australia is born
out of a childhood marked by regular upheaval. His father's job as a seismologist
with an oil company meant a change of country every few years.
Hugo Wallace Weaving was born in Nigeria in 1960. Soon
afterwards, the family moved to England and, at the age of 10 (after spells
in Melbourne and Sydney), he was sent as a boarder to the Downs, a private
school outside Bristol.
"It was like a prep school version of the Lindsay
Anderson film If," he says. "When I see that film, it brings back all these
memories. I was a prefect at the age of 13 and I remember wandering around
at night, turning the lights out in the dormitories and listening to seven-year-old
boys crying with their teddies. Rugby was compulsory. We played every single
day, in snow, sleet or hail. I loved it, though."
Weaving's interest in acting was encouraged by a young
English teacher at his next school, Queen Elizabeth Hospital School, also
in Bristol. He made his stage debut as a 15-year-old in a compilation of
skits called A Victorian Evening. A year later, his family moved back to
Sydney, and Weaving finished off his schooling at a posh local grammar
school. At the time, he felt "entirely English" and came in for the usual
"whingeing Pom" jibes from his classmates.
He soon lost his English accent, enrolled at the National
Institute of Dramatic Art, and spent most of the Eighties appearing in
plays and television mini-series in Australia. In 1994, he landed the role
of an insecure drag queen in The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the
Desert, alongside Terence Stamp, which brought him to an international
audience for the first time. But the phone call that propelled him into
the big league came in 1998, when he was asked to audition for the part
of Agent Smith, Keanu Reeves's snarling, computer-generated nemesis in
the Wachowski brothers' The Matrix.
The Matrix: Weaving's role led directly to his involvement
in the The Lord of the Rings
"I was working in London and my agent rang from Sydney
to tell me about this new film. He said it was a big-budget, science fiction
thing. I said I really wasn't interested; it didn't sound like my kind
of film at all. Then I saw Bound, the Wachowskis' previous film, which
I really liked, so I got the script and thought the character was pretty
interesting. Then I flew to LA to meet Larry and Andy [Wachowski] and I
thought they were great."
Months of gruelling training followed, and the fight
scenes with Reeves left Weaving bloodied and bruised. He sustained a serious
hip injury that almost required surgery. "Initially, Keanu and I would
train as if it were a ballet, practising our punches. But when it came
down to it, we had to make contact. From time to time, I would really hit
Keanu or he would hit me."
Weaving was disconcerted when he arrived on the set of
the third Matrix film to find hundreds of Agent Smith mannequins littering
the sound stage, all dressed in identical black suits, white shirts and
sunglasses.
"There were rows and rows of them. One time, I looked
down and there was my head in a bucket. It was bizarre."
Weaving's Matrix role led directly to his involvement
in the The Lord of the Rings project. He received a call in early 2000
from Barry Osborne, who had produced the first Matrix film and was working
on the adaptation of Tolkien's epic fantasy in New Zealand. "I remembered
Elrond from reading The Hobbit as a kid, so I said: 'That sounds fantastic,
I'd love to be involved'."
For the next three years, he flew back and forth over
the Tasman Sea, dropping in for a few weeks' filming amid New Zealand's
lakes and mountains before heading back to his family.
While the highlights of the trilogy for most cinema-goers
were the epic battle scenes and spectacular scenery, Weaving's abiding
memory is of the disposable latex ears he wore as Elrond.
"They were stored in a fridge because they tended to
droop a bit in warm weather. At the end of each day's filming, I just ripped
them off and chucked them away."
Lunchtimes on the set, when the cast and crew stopped
for a break, were surreal. "Ian McKellen would have a big snood tied
around his beard, to keep it clean while he ate, and then there'd be an
orc across the table, wearing a hideous face mask, sipping his lunch through
a straw. It was very funny."
Weaving's biggest challenge of all was learning to speak
elvish. "It was a nightmare. There would be all these elves sitting around,
practising their lines. From time to time, you'd hear someone go: 'Oh fuck
it, fucking hell', because they couldn't get it right."
Playing Elrond was "limited in its appeal to an actor",
he admits. For the most part, the role required Weaving to glide around
the mythical palace of Rivendell wearing flowing cloaks, looking serene
and delivering words of wisdom.
"I found playing Elrond quite hard," he says. He yearned
for a more robust action-hero role, like Aragorn, played by Viggo Mortensen.
The elves were a bit too squeaky clean for his liking.
Weaving's latest project is Peaches, a low-budget, coming-of-age
story about a young girl growing up in a peach-growing town in south Australia
after her parents are killed in a car crash.
There are other films in the pipeline, and perhaps a return
to theatre in Sydney. But this year, his priority is to restore the former
dairy farm that he and his wife bought recently in the lush hill country
three hours' drive north of Sydney. The 60-acre property includes patches
of rainforest, a fast-flowing river and "a number of exquisite glades".
A bit like Rivendell? "Better than Rivendell," he says, with a smile.
If he decides to sign up to another Hollywood blockbuster,
Weaving knows he will have to wrestle with the fact that he is now, in
his own words, "a commodity".
"It's something I object to hugely," he says. "I try
to stay true to what I believe in. If that means the offers dry up, then
so be it."
With that, he grins, shakes my hand warmly, and wanders
off. Elrond may be immortal, and Agent Smith may be indestructible, but
Hugo Weaving has to pick the kids up from school.
# Peaches will be released later this year
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