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Hugo Weaving:
The Matrix Reloaded
May 12th 2003
Interview
by Paul Fischer in Los Angeles From Dark
Horizons
Hollywood may not exactly
be the place to find respected Aussie stage actor Hugo Weaving. Amidst
the sheer chaos of promoting one of the year's most hyped up blockbusters,
Weaving says he is tired but is sounding upbeat when we catch up here.
He admits that he'd rather be acting than spending three weeks on the road
with The Matrix juggernaut, first here in sunny Los Angeles and then the
more intense chaos of the Cannes Film Festival.
"Yeah, it's not really something
that I really wanted to do but on the other hand I figured, well look,
this will be good, we're travelling a lot, and it'll be good to catch up
with everyone again."
Even though doing the kind
of big-time press that he has to undertake and staying in swanky hotels
is somewhat surreal for this down-to-earth acting veteran, who returns
to the Matrix as the often bleakly comic Agent Smith.
"But if you're gonna do
it you might as well have a good time with it and I'm looking forward to
going to Cannes and all of that madness," Hugo says laughingly.
Yet he initially turned down
the opportunity to co-star with Hollywood heavyweight Keanu Reeves in the
1999 original, he says.
"I was making a film in
London, was really busy, when my Australian agent called and said that
these guys were doing this film which I think she described as a big-budget
science fiction thing, and she mentioned there was a script coming my way,
and they wanted me to put down a scene on tape and send it to them. I immediately
said I don't want to be tested, I don't have time, and it didn't sound
like something I wanted to do."
But fortunately for Weaving,
his agent persevered.
"So, I kind of really read
through the script and I wasn't sure and then I read the scene with Agent
Smith and thought: Well the character is actually really quite cool, very
funny and maybe it's something that I should think twice about, which I
did, and then put this scene down. At first I had reservations, but the
more I read the script and as soon as I met Larry and Andy, I started to
actually think the character was something that would be really fun to
play."
Clearly the actor was right.
Donned in dark suit and sunglasses, Weaving and company helped make The
Matrix one of the most talked about and influential films in a decade,
but nobody, least of all Hugo, could have predicted the pop cultural influences
that The Matrix would permeate.
"At the time we were filming
we were not consciously sitting around and discussing that, but the more
I talked to Larry and Andy, the more I read the scripts, and the more I
saw what was being done, with the art department, and the more I saw the
storyboards and the more I saw films and looking at them, the more I realized
the sort of film that we were making, but, not really to the extent to
which it would become a popular sort of phenomenon. Then you start seeing
more and more ads using Bullet Time or approximations of Bullet Time and
you realize that it's had an enormous impact on the way in which people
make films and on the way in which we'd like to see the world."
Weaving was required to adopt
a considerable leap of faith before jumping into the next two Matrix extravaganzas.
He had to commit before seeing one script but there was something about
the whole Matrix phenomenon that proved irresistible for Weaving and his
American co-stars.
"I think the story wasn't
complete. There was an enormous amount that had been hinted at in the first
film and needed to be explored, that you want to seize on such as the architecture
of the Matrix," he says.
But this devoted husband
and father of two needed more before committing to such a lengthy film
shoot.
"More importantly, working
with Larry and Andy was a real delight and we had become very good friends
and I loved working with them on the set very much."
That outweighed the actor's
concerns about returning to Matrix territory.
"I was a little bit concerned
about repeating a character which I had never done before and wondered
what happens when you play the same character in three films and does it
make it harder for you to go and do something radically different after
that? Maybe it does, but it doesn't mean it's impossible and they assured
me that the character would develop in an interesting way."
It was a huge gamble for
Weaving who at the time didn't even know if the much more expensive sequels
would be shot in Sydney or the States.
"In the end it was about
Larry and Andy, about the story and about the idea that actually there
was a development there in that character and that he did kind of go places."
He does go places, many times
over. In one of the most visually arresting moments in the film, dozens
of Hugo Weavings are fighting Keanu Reeves. Part Weaving, part CGI effects,
Weaving admits that he was constantly laughing both to himself and his
co-star, about what a truly funny profession this whole acting lark is.
"I would constantly comment
that it's so weird, being suspended up in the air, and the rain's pouring
down on me, with Keanu looking at me, giggling, think to ourselves: What
on earth are we doing? Is this life? So, in a sense it's a really weird
place."
Over 40 films later, Matrix
Reloaded and of course The Lord of the Rings trilogy, are the icing on
the cake for an actor trying to find his place in this often odd profession
for some 30 years. Perhaps being suspended in the air and fighting with
Keanu Reeves has as much to do with why the 43-year old Nigerian-born Aussie
became an actor in the first place.
"I think it had more to
do with that sense of doing something really odd and doing it with other
people," Weaving recalls. "Film sets are constantly amusing because you
really are creating something that is so very surreal and I kind of like
that."
Weaving further admits that
his perceptions of acting have certainly changed since starting out way
back when. "Initially I probably didn't even call it acting, but dressing
up or something. I mean, as a kid I think you fully imagine the world in
which you want to inhabit, so you put some clothes on and just kind of
freely imagine this world, and it's a total imaginary world."
That aspect of it hasn't
changed, says Weaving. "The thing that HAS changed, I suppose, is the understanding
of what you want to do with it and also understanding the film industry
and the film BUSINESS, which is a constant lesson."
For Hugo, the importance
of acting needs to go beyond the business side of it which he detests.
For the actor acting "is a wonderful art which I think illuminates humanity."
Weaving says that he derives both pleasure and dissatisfaction from acting.
"More, because I am less self-cantered about it and less because I find
the industry and the business of it sometimes depressing, but in many ways
more, because it is less to do with me which I think is a good thing."
It's Weaving's loathing of
the film business that has precluded him from moving to the States and
he's happy with that decision.
Very much at home in Australia
with his wife Katrina and their two children Harry and Holly, the actor
refuels his love of acting by returning to the stage as much as possible.
"I am actually doing a play
at the end of this year", which is a new production of Tom Stoppard's The
Real Thing, for the Sydney Theatre Company.
Not one to rest on his laurels,
Hugo continuers to promote Matrix, accompanied by his wife, and then heads
to New Zealand for re-shoots on another long-awaited sequel: Lord of the
Rings: Return of the King. But he laughingly concedes that he has no idea
how much of Hugo will end up in the third Rings film.
"I'm not even sure what
scenes we'll be shooting this time. I wasn't originally in one of the films
at all. But just mainly in one and a little bit in three. So, the story
line with Elrond and Aragorn and Arwen kind of developed a little bit,
but how it's developed in the third one I am not entirely sure. I haven't
got the scenes I'm going to be doing, but that's no surprise with Lord
of The Rings. There is a tendency to pick your scenes and then get other
versions of them and then finally on the day you get another version of
them and then as you're shooting, another version will come through."
In between shooting these
Hollywood blockbusters, Weaving found time to remain loyal to the Australian
film industry, and completed filming the low-budget drama Peaches, with
Jacqueline McKenzie.
But it's The Matrix and
Lord of the Rings for which this reluctant of stars will continue to remain
known for. At least, he says smilingly, he has been able to please both
of his children.
"I think Holly really loves
the fact that I'm in Lord of the Rings while Harry rather likes the fact
that I'm in The Matrix." If you can't please your kids, who CAN you please?
"That's exactly right," concurs a laughing Mr Weaving.
Hugo Weaving
Talks About "The Matrix Reloaded"
by Rebecca Murray, RomanticMovies.com
To describe the premiere of "The Matrix Reloaded" as surreal
would be putting it very mildly. It was a wild, crazy, chaotic scene, with
A-list actors mingling with stars from the music world, all while being
screamed at by eager fans who had lined up for hours blocking the sidewalks
adjacent to the theater. When the stars of "The Matrix Reloaded" arrived,
it was all security could do to keep the screaming horde under a semblance
of control.
Faced with the packed crowd and a seemingly endless line
of reporters, some celebrities took the easy way out and just posed for
photos, leaving the task of facing hundreds of microphones up to the braver
souls.
I was able to catch a few of "The Matrix Reloaded" stars
prior to their hasty retreat into the safe confines of the theater. Here's
a sampling of quotes direct from the 'black carpet' event.
HUGO WEAVING ('Agent Smith')
How would you sum up The Matrix
Reloaded?
"It's a titanic struggle between intuition and controlling
intellect."
We see hundreds of you in this film.
Would you like to be cloned?
"No, I don't think so. I sometimes want another
twin as long as he didn't really look like me. I'd hate to see
hundreds of me (laughing). There are hundreds of 'Smiths,' not hundreds
of me. I feel a little different from him"
How did you develop the vocal cadence
that this character uses?
"We had four or five months training and I was hanging
out with Larry and Andy Wachowski, the directors. They sound kind of a
little bit similar to him. I wanted him to be not really like a human being,
but not really like a robot - something like a newsreader. That's kind
of where I was at with him."
When you did the 'Burly Brawl' scene,
did you have to each movement 12 times?
"Yes, some shots I did, other times there were stuntmen
doing those roles, and other times it's CG." |
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